Immigration enforcement… January 8, 2008
Posted by iamashadow in Immigration, dehumanization, human rights, illegal immigrants, illegal immigration, life, personal, politics, thoughts, undocumented student.trackback
To see this happening in my lifetime, it’s unbelievable. Truly unbelievable. To see the majority be threaten by a small minority to the point of making their life a living hell. Arizona, Oklahoma, Georgia are states that passed tough immigration laws. Indiana, Kansas, Alabama, South Carolina and Minnesota are states that are now considering their own tough laws. Both Kansas and Utah want to take away in-state tuition from undocumented Americans. That’s right, I call them Americans. In every sense of the word!
Now though, matters are worse. More and more, enforcement is becoming the name of the game. Everyone is trying to see who is tougher on immigrants. Everyone making scapegoats of a group of people who only wanted to make a better for themselves. How can such a strong majority be so afraid of change? Be so afraid of those who are different. It looks like I’m on the losing side but than again, I know I’m on the right side. But even though I believe I’m on the right, the side of humanity and compassion, it still doesn’t help that I feel bad about everything. It is hard to read the words that are written, hard to know what a lot of people think of me. Being considered the scum of the earth does have that effect on the psyche…
One question though? Since when did compassion and humanity become a weakness? Can anyone answer? Since when did it become fashionable to make other people’s lives a living hell?
Thank you for speaking that way. I came to his country to survive. I don’t think i’m taking anybody’s job and even more pay taxes and being a responsable citizen. I worked on a restaurant as a dish washer and now i’m an engineer with a lot a investment in this country. And every time a get a cross with some of those people who can not handle somebody with an accent they tell me to go back to my country. If I could I would. But I have to stay here because my life, job, family and everything I know is here.
And yes, every day it is so difficult to stay here that a lot of good people are living the country. Sad, because I don’t see any Americans picking fruit or cleaning offices to replace the immigrants who are the ones who do these kind of jobs.
On the other hand, if you get a DUI get the hell out, but if you are a good citizen , please let us be. We are just working here. We do not come here to get up in the morning…Ok, let’s take somebody’s job or let’s do something wrong to this society.
First, as a University student you should know not to rely on spell check alone. Go and re-read what you posted.
How can such a large majority have any fear..? How many people were here in America when a small band of people changed the world by flying into buildings? That is how. It has been pretty well documented that Islamic terrorist’s are in America, and that most got here after being smuggled across the border with Mexico.
Then there is the issue of law. We are a nation of laws, not of men. It has nothing at all to do with compassion, humanity, or weakness.
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Illegal aliens - I call them what they are without precious euphemisms - are criminals, each and every one of them. They should be treated as such and incarcerated for the appropriate amount of time before being deported. The companies hiring them should face even tougher penalties since they’re essentially trading in slave labor.
They don’t deserve in-state tuitions because they have no legal residence in any state. They have no legal residence anywhere in America.
“Since when did compassion and humanity become a weakness?”
When people exploited America’s kind nature, that’s when.
Patricksperry- None of the terrorist from 9/11 came here illegally. They all came legally, with visas. Islamic terrorist in America? Where? And since when did it become all right to confuse the people coming here, those with intentions of having a better life and those that planning something that is wrong? A nation laws? I agree, the laws should be followed. When they make sense and are not wrong. Having a revolution against the mother country of England was treason. Would you have followed the law and done nothing. Jim Crow laws were technically laws? Should have African-Americans just obeyed and remained second-class citizens. Slavery was a law? Should it have been continued to this day? And the most extreme of all examples, was the persecution against the Jews in WWII all right because it was the law?
jonolan-Exploited America’s kind nature. America has been anything but kind to immigrants. History shows us that. They do deserve in-state tuition because they have been living here for 10 or more years. Doesn’t that make them American in your eyes? Isn’t getting into college more than proof that they want to do something for themselves and help this country. This is their home. All of them are criminals? So everyone who risen up in the past to fight unjust laws are also criminals?
Anyways, sorry for the typos and mistakes. I’ll tell the people who help me to look over the grammar next time. Everyone is in a hurry these days it seems.
“So everyone who risen up in the past to fight unjust laws are also criminals?”
You’re the only one here equating trying to change existing legislation with committing a crime, iamashadow.
I think the following quote illustrates in a better way what I’m trying to say.
“An individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for the law.”
Strange as it might seem, I agree with that quote.
Patrick you have no idea what you’re talking about. Stop pulling shit out of your ass and trying to present it to us as facts. Why the hell would well funded terrorists risk their lives sneaking across a desert when they can just get a visa? Most people who try to cross get caught, those would be some stupid terrorists.
Lord, you people really don’t think these things out. The US is about to face a shortage of workers between 18-50 because of the baby boomers. Undocumented immigrants have been successful in filling the market needs of unskilled labor. However, the skilled labor shortage is still present. We’ve already invested k-12 in these students. Let’s optimize our return in terms of taxes and economic benefits by giving them an opportunity to attend college.
States don’t fund college education because they believe it;s the right thing to do, they do it because it helps the economy later on.
Then there is the issue of law. We are a nation of laws, not of men. It has nothing at all to do with compassion, humanity, or weakness.
I didn’t know Hammurabi was on WordPress.
If DM had a brain, he might just be dangerous. They are here like it or not. But I suppose that you discount anything that the Director of the FBI tells the Congress.
As for the so-called labor shortage? I will have to remember that the next time there is a raid on a meat plant, and the very next day there are ten legal applicants for every position that was made available.
Then there is this issue of in state tuition? I believe that there needs to be some sort of remedy. How to do that without trashing basic ethics will be the true challenge.
My very first girl friend, Yolanda Sanchez, recently summed it up nicely in my opinion. “Why can’t they join the Marines, and earn their place here?”
Good question…
“I didn’t know Hammurabi was on WordPress.” ROARS LAUGHING!
“Why can’t they join the Marines, and earn their place?” Because immigrants are not allowed to serve. If they do so it is with fake documentation. Where are you even getting your facts?
Bovine feces, anyone with a green card that passes the rest of the requirements can serve in US forces. Foreign nationals can also serve by applying through an American embassy. Many people do use that as a pathway to citizenship.
Get your own facts straight.
Well, undocumented immigrants don’t have green cards now do they? And they can’t go to an American embassy because they are already here. So…how exactly does an immigrant who came here when he was a baby, grows up here, and loves American, fight in a war for his country.
Bovine feces? Wow, childish much? Name calling basically lowers your opinion and views. But that’s just me and probably everyone else.
Stupid is as stupid does. Try actually researching instead of showing off to the world just how ignorant that you are.
And where are your links and info coming from again? All of my posts seem to have them, aside from the ones that are personal experience and those that are not on immigration. And please, stop insulting people, either me or anyone commenting here. Now that is childish, rude and shows that you haven’t grown up. You don’t see me commenting on your blog or anyone else’s for that matter and acting like an a**hole.
Okay shadow, I never called you any names. Take a look above. First, anyone can join the American Military as long as they can pass the background checks and other things. It is a matter of record, and links etc. should not be needed.
Just to make a point I will try and have Corporal Mendez post here, or on my blog about this. he was brought here as an infant from Guadalajara Mexico. Graduated from High school, and decided he wanted to go in the service. That is when the “secret” came out. He asked the recruiter what could be done, and the recruiter told him that he could still join. A few months after joining, he became a citizen. Granted, that was accelerated, but it shows the basic premise.
Really? Because I thought that the Dream Act was just not about letting undocumented students go to college with in-state tuition rates, but also allow them to join the military in order to gain their residency. The Dream Act was defeated unfortunately so no, as far as I know and unless you prove me otherwise, undocumented immigrants cannot join the military. Unless the said immigrant gets fake documentation.
I stand corrected. I checked with a friend that is an actual recruiter for the Army. Indeed, within the United States you do now have to have a green card to enlist. It is different in places outside the United States, and is entirely dependent upon the nation, treaties, and the interests of the United States.
As far as “The Dream Act?” I really don’t know, and it is not Germain to the discussion. If you are from Nevada you cannot get in state tuition here in Colorado. Why? Because you are not a legal resident of the state of Colorado. Why then I ask, should someone that is not here legally, much less a state resident, be granted in state tuition?
I do personally believe that anyone that wants to serve should be allowed to do so, within the mandatory requirements, as a pathway to citizenship.
Via con Dios Amigo
Because we are talking about kids, who might have come as old as 10 years or 3 months. Kids who are as American as their peers. A lot of them don’t even know they are undocumented until their parents tell them or they find out through the college application process. They have been paying taxes to the state they live in. Property taxes through rent or if they have a house. Sales tax because even though immigrants do send money home, they still need to survive. Kids usually don’t send money back and ask their parents to buy stuff for them here, an example, video games. And yes, they also pay income tax. Even with fake papers, SS takes money away. If anyone who has been accepted to a US college who is an immigrant is proving himself/herself that they are as American as their peers in intelligence and English skills. They have the same dreams and aspirations and want to be professionals, who would also be taxed. That does not mean opening up the borders. That doesn’t mean that 12 million people will ‘invade’ US colleges because obviously not nearly everyone from 12 million has the intelligence to go to college.
I also personally that people who want to go into the military should be given at least a path to residency. What a better way to prove to people like you that they want to be considered Americans by fighting for this country and maybe even dying.
That’s very sad for those kids, but the needs of nation and its citizens must take precedence. It’s those children’s parents who have erred, not the US government. It would have been comparatively easy for those parents to get their children citizenship - while they were minors - in the US.
How could the parents have given their kids citizenship?
iamashadow,
Further research showed that I was mistaken in my assertion. If the parents filed for citizenship, the child could have gained it easily as well, but not if they didn’t. The “programs” I was thinking of were actually special programs that ended some time ago.